Shakib ul hassan

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Quick deletion of Maratha Conquest of Bhadawar and Ater

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Actually I was onto to create a draft, but un noticed I created an Article using Article Wizard. Shakib ul hassan (talk) 12:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Flags

Hi there , I have noticed are editing my articles and removing flags [1] and in [2] kindly stop ?? removing the flags in my articles Mr.Hanes (talk) 05:03, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi user, Those flags in your articles [3], [4] and even this [5] are completely Fictitious, non academic and unofficial. So it is better to not use those flags in the articles as this may lead to some kind of confusion amongst the readers, Regards. Shakib ul hassan (talk) 06:38, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lalitaditya as Vassal

Hey i noticed you have removed my contribution without any valied reason out there Lalitaditya was a vassal of Tang Dynasty of China.

Lalit?ditya decided to pursue and defeat Yasovarman. Using his status as a Chinese vassal and enemy of the Arabs, Lalit?ditya recruited from border areas and obtained his magician/general Carniku?a from Tokharisthan,[6] pg 46

According to K.P. Jayaswal, Yasovarman's sending an embassy to China in 731 A.D. seems to have followed his defeat at the hands of Lalitāditya, for the Kashmir king himself was under the acknowledged suzerainty of China, and Yasovarman... [7] pg 103

Paradoxically, Lalitaditya became the supreme lord of India as a vassal of the Tang Chinese, and with the means provided by them. [8] pg 243-244 Mr.Hanes (talk) 13:34, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Regarding Lalitaditya’s status as a vassal of the Tang Dynasty:

The claim in

Lalit?ditya decided to pursue and defeat Yasovarman. Using his status as a Chinese vassal and enemy of the Arabs, Lalit?ditya recruited from border areas and obtained his magician/general Carniku?a from Tokharisthan

is worth considering. However, this can be better understood as a pragmatic alliance rather than outright subjugation. Labeling Lalitaditya strictly as a "vassal" oversimplifies the political landscape. He may have acknowledged Tang China for strategic reasons, but that does not make him a mere subordinate. A "vassal-ally" status would be more appropriate here.

2. The argument about Lalitaditya being a vassal of the Tang Dynasty is directly contradicted in the very next line of the text,

These arguments are unfounded and far-fetched. Yasovarman's purpose of sending his envoy to the Chinese court was entirely different

3. The statement Lalitaditya became the supreme lord of India as a vassal of the Tang Chinese, and with the means provided by them is inherently contradictory. The use of "Paradoxically" highlights the inconsistency: being the "supreme lord of India" conflicts with being a vassal of a foreign power. Additionally, there is no substantial evidence that Tang China directly enabled Lalitaditya’s conquests.

These points suggest that the claims need to be presented with proper context and a balanced understanding of the sources. Misleading or speculative assertions will not strengthen the argument.

Best regards,

Shakib ul hassan ?Talk? 14:07, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello thanks for your time, calling him a "Vassal" should be better than a Vassal ally as he has addressed himself a Vassal in his own letter to Tang Dynasty of China

After having [established this] kingdom. [I have] submitted to the Heavenly Qaghan along with other vassals] and received [orders] to position and dispatch [my forces]. [My] kingdom has three kinds of troops, elephant [-mounted), cavalry, and foot soldiers. The Tibetans on the five great routes distressed this vassal and the king of Middle India. [The Tibetans] blocked [us from] entering and exiting [through these routes]. [There- fore, we] fought and at once [emerged] victorious. Now, if the Heavenly Qaghan's army arrives at Palur, even if it [numbers] two hundred thousand. I can assist with the supply of provi sions. In [my] kingdom, there is a dragon pond [called] Mahāpadma (present-day Vular Lake). I am willing to let the [troops] of the Heavenly Qaghan encamp there. [9] pg 30 what do you think about it? Mr.Hanes (talk) 14:24, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It’s clear you’ve put thought into this interpretation, and I respect your perspective. However, I don’t agree that “vassal” alone is necessarily a better choice in this context than “vassal ally.” While the letter does demonstrate subordination to the Tang emperor, it also highlights a degree of autonomy and agency. The ruler's active military engagement, his ability to offer strategic resources, and his self-described triumph over the Tibetans suggest a relationship that’s not entirely one-sided.

The term “vassal ally” may better capture this duality—acknowledging both his formal submission and his role as an active, capable partner within the Tang sphere of influence. Dismissing the word “ally” could understate the mutual benefits and interdependence evident in this relationship.

So while I see where you’re coming from, I think “vassal ally” might actually be a more nuanced and fitting description of the role he played.

regards, Shakib ul hassan ?Talk? 14:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My suggestion is that the status parameter should remain empty rather than putting Vassal Ally or Vassal due to the confusion of Status.

Regards Mr.Hanes (talk) 14:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You make a valid point—leaving the status parameter empty might indeed be the best approach to avoid oversimplifying or misrepresenting the nuanced relationship described in the letter. The ambiguity in the exact nature of the status, whether as a "vassal" or "vassal ally," suggests it might be better to let the historical context speak for itself without forcing a label. Thank you for the suggestion! Shakib ul hassan (talk) 14:57, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, i would like you to pay attention to this :

In the early eighth century, Ka?mir, under the K?rko?a rulers, emerged as a powerful state in the southern Hindukush region. The peaceful rela- tions established between Karko?a and its Turkic neighbors facilitated La- litāditya, arguably the most dynamic Kārko?a king, to extended Ka?mīri suzerainty well into central and eastern India. Mutual concern about the Tibetan expansion and the threatening Arab forces prompted K?rko?a rul- ers, the Turkic kingdoms in the southern Hindukush, and the Tang court to forge a strategic military alliance. The success of this alliance is best dem- onstrated in the manner in which Tibetan forces were repeatedly stopped from invading and crossing into the northern Pamir mountains through Lit- tle Palür. [10], pg 157, despite being in the primary record, Historians choose to deal with the delegation as a military alliance support.

regards, Shakib ul hassan (talk) 14:53, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Restored Message

Please stop misleading users by removing message and your edit summary is "Archiving", I restored a message but if you want to archive a message, please follow a WP:ARCHIVE How to archive your message, Thank you! Raayaan 9911 14:45, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RfD nomination of Shivaji's first raid into Deccan

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Barnstar!

		The history barnstar
		For defending history by reporting false and misleading articles about fictitious battles to RfD :). Thank you and keep up the good work!

Best regards, BZPN (talk) 10:28, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, BZPN, for the Barnstar! ?? Shakib ul hassan talk! 10:30, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A quick question

Hi shakib ul hassan, i have a quick question for you because you seem to be helpful, what to do if a editor requested a article to be nuked because it was created by a blocked/banned editor, and you request a qd for the article when there is a nuke request already there? I am stuck on that. :/
Thanks and happy editing! :) ???????????????? ^{(???????? ? ????????????????)} 19:14, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there,

Thanks for reaching out! ?? "Nuking" an article basically means deleting it quickly and completely, usually because it violates Wikipedia's rules—like if it was created by a blocked or banned editor, or if it doesn't meet notability guidelines. It's just a fast way to handle problematic pages. If there's already a nuke request for the article, you don't need to put in a QD request too. For more information you could check this. Hope that clears things up!

Happy editing! :) Shakib ul hassan talk! 19:50, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, tysm! :D ???????????????? ^{(???????? ? ????????????????)} 20:46, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar!

		The Original Barnstar
		Thank you for your efforts in protecting the Mihira Bhoja article from vandalism, removing Caste-Push-up content and improving the article. NXcrypto Chatting 03:17, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much Crypto ??!!! Shakib ul hassan talk! 09:42, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ramadan Kareem

Ramadan Kareem, may this holy month bring you blessing and may allah accepted your fasting. Raayaan 9911 02:00, 25 February 2025 (UTC) [reply]

Thank you Raayaan! Ramadan Kareem to you too! May this month bring you joy and countless blessings! Shakib ul hassan talk! 19:44, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ramadan Kareem you too. Raayaan 9911 18:15, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Eid Mubarak!

Eid Mubarak, wishing all your family and friends a blessed Eid. ?? Raayaan9911 Ramadan Kareem! 03:08, 27 March 2025 (UTC) [reply]

Eid Mubarak to you too Raayaan!!! May Allah bless you with prosperity. Shakib ul hassan talk! 06:09, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You too! ?? Raayaan9911 Ramadan Kareem! 14:41, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

March 2025

Your recent changes, like those you made to "Maratha Raids in Bishnupur", are vandalism, and this shows that you want to harm Wikipedia. This is your last warning. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you may be blocked from changing Wikipedia. Mr.Hanes Talk 07:22, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding images

Hi,

I noticed you upload maps for Bajirao's campaigns. Could you do the same for Battle of Vasai, Battle of Godavri, Janjira Fort so that I can upload on main article Bajirao I on Wikipedia. I have uploaded your delhi's route map taken from era of Bajirao.

Will be eagerly waiting for your maps!

Regards. Mohammad Umar Ali (talk) 19:13, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Umar, I really appreciate that you liked the map! I’ll be creating my own versions soon to avoid any copyright issues and will upload them shortly. Thanks again. Shakib ul hassan talk! 16:32, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! Just inform me when you are done with the maps. Also, I have attached name of book in the source section of image here, [11] & [12] to avoid questionable claims by other editors on the images. Mohammad Umar Ali (talk) 20:51, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot! I’ll definitely let you know once I’m done with the maps. Shakib ul hassan talk! 10:18, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Eid Mubarak!

Eid Mubarak! Min Al-Aaideen wa Al-Faizeenm. — Raayaan 9911 14:07, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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